Ammon: I'm not a baby. I'm a big boy.
Ivan: No you're not.
Ammon: Yes I am.
Ivan: No you're not, you are still a baby.
Ammon: No, I'm a big boy!
Ivan: No you aren't you are a baby.
Ammon: (Very upset now) NO!! I AM A BIG BOY!!
Ivan: Ammon, Look at your butt! If it has a diaper, you are a baby.
Ammon: (Looks, gets quiet....ponders.....)
Ivan: See, you are a baby. You just look at the butt and then you know.